Koni FSD -A new experience

blue · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject:

amrul wrote:

Before raya, my H-Bar kena bump @ Sunway Piramaid, thus creating lot of noise. I got no choice but to remove H-Bar.

Initially i am a bit hesitate to H-Bar as i worry it will affect the corner handling, but due to the noise i got no choice but to remove it.

Ha, ha without H-Bar, the handling still good and surprising it is better this way without H-Bar.

I believe this KONI FSD really perform as it deliver what is it claim.

the more i drive, the more i enjoy it.

Just to share ....

Selamat Hari Raya

Bro, I just removed my rear arm bar for warranty one-to-one exchange ... I was also surprised, corners are not as scary without the bars. In fact, the car is kinda lighter and more fun. I bit more flex at the back, but its not scary. FSD and Autofoam punya pasal perhaps.

toycarsmy.com · Amateur Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 102

Hi Blue,

Is FSD more bumpy than the stock assorber?

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blue · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject:

toycarsmy.com wrote:

Hi Blue,

Is FSD more bumpy than the stock assorber?

No, quite the opposite. It is more firm when it needs to be, so handling is much much better compared to stock. You can read my review in detail on page 5 of this thread discussion.

amrul · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:

blue wrote:

Bro, I just removed my rear arm bar for warranty one-to-one exchange ... I was also surprised, corners are not as scary without the bars. In fact, the car is kinda lighter and more fun. I bit more flex at the back, but its not scary. FSD and Autofoam punya pasal perhaps.

i believe it too.

I think after all the forming and FSDing, those bars are not necessary.

I am really like the comfort now.

Syiok.

Now my H-Bar is collectiong dust and my wife want to sell to as scarp. RM6 per kg. Rugi besar ooooo

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blue · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject:

amrul wrote:

blue wrote:

Bro, I just removed my rear arm bar for warranty one-to-one exchange ... I was also surprised, corners are not as scary without the bars. In fact, the car is kinda lighter and more fun. I bit more flex at the back, but its not scary. FSD and Autofoam punya pasal perhaps.

i believe it too.

I think after all the forming and FSDing, those bars are not necessary.

I am really like the comfort now.

Syiok.

Now my H-Bar is collectiong dust and my wife want to sell to as scarp. RM6 per kg. Rugi besar ooooo

hahaha, claim warranty then sell at the selling thread lah. Maybe some bro who does not want to invest big in FSD and Autofoam might find it useful. Rugilah if go to besi buruk ...

drthein71 · Veteran Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 470 Location: KL

I had the opportunity to test the FSD with full autofoam minus the bars. Hence during FSD I deliberately removed the H bar and the rear tie bar (both Summit).I had been without these bars for the past 7 months. Kept the Summit tower bar and the UR ARB(16mm) on board.Like bros amrul and blue mentioned without the bars H and the RTB) the FSD performed well which I truly agree.
I am on Toyo CIS (215/45/17) which is primarily a sports comfort tyre and not a UHP tyre and I would say the combination of these tyres+FSD +AF really suit my driving style. Had no problems speeding to 180km/h on the highways. The car is handling is firm and feels planted to the ground. No complaints from the passengers either.... Wink

Lately I did up the alignment and tyre rotation (after 10k kms). This time I reinstalled the H bar and the rear tie bar. Funny I had a different feeling now. There was definite slight improvement in terms of handling especially on bends and sharp corners.This is just my gut feeling. There was no compromise at all on the comfort level when compared to the ride without the summit H bar and the RTB Smile

blue · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject:

So doc, did you feel that with the bars, the car felt slightly more rigid, slightly more heavy to turn?

I'm wondering if there is a thing called "too rigid" or at least, "too rigid for street driving". With the rear bar and with the track package foaming, the car was extremely firm and confident over sharp and fast corners. The car didn't bend an inch. The only thing is, without bucket seats -- I was literally nailed to the edge of my seat, and door. Plus, I can feel some of my organs hitting my ribs and skull. I guess that's why buckets seats, helmets and hydrated race suits came to be.

Taking off the rear bar, there is a bit of a roll over fast and sharp corners, however, the roll wasn't very bad nor compromised the overall safety. I was less "pinned and thrown" to the door as the roll took some of the innertial force. However, I'd probably not do the corner as fast as I did with the bars on.

If we're on a track, no question ... the bars should go on that car! Definite improvement to track time. On the street though, I wonder if it should be about balance, rather than turning our rides into an uncompromising traci car with a cartoon version of my soul hanging out of the driver door everytime I corner ... cos it can't stay on to the body during the corner.

hotel kilo · ACE Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 2107 Location: Klang Valley

blue wrote:

I'm wondering if there is a thing called "too rigid" or at least, "too rigid for street driving". .

On most of the Type R models you'll see the 3 wheel effect on the street espcially turning in tightly on steep ramps. At the track I think its turn 9 you'll see lots of them cornering on 3 wheels.

drthein71 · Veteran Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 470 Location: KL

blue wrote:

So doc, did you feel that with the bars, the car felt slightly more rigid, slightly more heavy to turn?

I'm wondering if there is a thing called "too rigid" or at least, "too rigid for street driving". With the rear bar and with the track package foaming, the car was extremely firm and confident over sharp and fast corners. The car didn't bend an inch. The only thing is, without bucket seats -- I was literally nailed to the edge of my seat, and door. Plus, I can feel some of my organs hitting my ribs and skull. I guess that's why buckets seats, helmets and hydrated race suits came to be.

Taking off the rear bar, there is a bit of a roll over fast and sharp corners, however, the roll wasn't very bad nor compromised the overall safety. I was less "pinned and thrown" to the door as the roll took some of the innertial force. However, I'd probably not do the corner as fast as I did with the bars on.

Hi bro
With the bars the car did feel more rigid but not to the extend of heavy on turning. Love it especially on the fast sweeping corners. Again this is very subjective and may differ from each individual and driving style. In town ride with lots of road imperfections the comfort may be bit compromised with the "hard ride". For me this current set up and tyre profile (215/45/17) is tolerable and it's "comfortable". With the H bar, need to be more cautious over the higher bumps to avoid fracturing the bar Laughing

If u are on the highway most of the time I think the full fledged AF,FSD and the bars are a perfect combination.....just my 2 cents
Wink

jeff · Newbie Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 15 Location: sarawak

hi all,

juz went to see Desmond today, i have put a deposit for a set of FSD for my FD2. Will get it next Sat. Cant wait to install it on my FD2 when i go back Miri. Will probably get the pivot 3 drive also.

teelim · Amateur Lvl 2 Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 266

after reading all the positive comments from the bros here, I am very interested to get a set for myself.

However, I would appreciate if anyone can enlighten me on long (km or years) the FSD can last as it is not serviceable (am I right?)

My car has only clocked about 45k km (and almost 3 years) and my stock absorbers are KO-ing. Would be very sad if the FSDs only last as long.

Thanks for sharing Wink

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blue · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

teelim wrote:

after reading all the positive comments from the bros here, I am very interested to get a set for myself.

However, I would appreciate if anyone can enlighten me on long (km or years) the FSD can last as it is not serviceable (am I right?)

My car has only clocked about 45k km (and almost 3 years) and my stock absorbers are KO-ing. Would be very sad if the FSDs only last as long.

Thanks for sharing Wink

Your stocks are supposed to last you 80K. How come finish so fast? If I were you, claim warranty first. Ask Desmond of KL Auto on how long FSDs will last. I think most of us here have may not have been on FSD long enough to have it run out so fast. Unless some bros here managed to finish a set Smile

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dchong@kl_auto · Veteran Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 382

Hi,

The longest or oldest FSD set so far is on little-d's ride. Over 2 years now and still enjoying every minute of it.

Typically abs lasts around 60 to 70K on our great Msian roads. However if your ride is lowered, expect 20% less.

It is ALL about 100% enjoying r ride while you own the car ( not making it better for the next buyer) so if you want to fully enjoy tested and proven, Conti ride and feel, safety and improved handling, why wait?

Cheers,

Desmond
KL AUTO

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blue · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject:

dchong@kl_auto wrote:

Hi,

The longest or oldest FSD set so far is on little-d's ride. Over 2 years now and still enjoying every minute of it.

Typically abs lasts around 60 to 70K on our great Msian roads. However if your ride is lowered, expect 20% less.

It is ALL about 100% enjoying r ride while you own the car ( not making it better for the next buyer) so if you want to fully enjoy tested and proven, Conti ride and feel, safety and improved handling, why wait?

Cheers,

Desmond
KL AUTO

Very true. The feeling is quite comparable to a conti-car.

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teelim · Amateur Lvl 2 Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 266

dchong@kl_auto wrote:

Hi,

The longest or oldest FSD set so far is on little-d's ride. Over 2 years now and still enjoying every minute of it.

Typically abs lasts around 60 to 70K on our great Msian roads. However if your ride is lowered, expect 20% less.

It is ALL about 100% enjoying r ride while you own the car ( not making it better for the next buyer) so if you want to fully enjoy tested and proven, Conti ride and feel, safety and improved handling, why wait?

Cheers,

Desmond
KL AUTO

Bro Des,

Thanks for the explanation/clarification. May I know the latest pricing (I posted this Q in your thread actually).

Thx.

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