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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slow traffic condition D - N - D - N - D - N - D not advisable

coming to a stop D - N - complete brake, ok
(not high speed braking ok)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenixck wrote:
slow traffic condition D - N - D - N - D - N - D not advisable

coming to a stop D - N - complete brake, ok
(not high speed braking ok)


agreed, u can shift fm D to N with intention to stop (but still not advisable), but never engage N to D whenever the car is still moving, 2 posibilities......ur engine MAY quit (rarely would happen as our ECU is smart enough) or ur gearbox will be worn/damage prematurely.

Almost as same as why u cant push start a car wit A/T if ur battery is flat, there is no buffer between the trans and engine output(hence clutch).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Broz,
Good day to you'll. I just got my civic "whiteboy" last Friday . I've been a manual trans driver since I got my license 14 yrs back. I'm felt like a newbie when I sat in my car on Friday puzzled when I wanted to shift the gears. Till today each time i wanted to shift the gears my eyez will automatically roll to the gear knob. according to your advice when i read through this posting , i don't necesarily have to change the drive (D) to neutral (n) whenever my car is stalled at traffic light which i've been doing since day 1 I got this car. i have few question which I believe broz can help me out before i wear out the transmission system.

Quest 1 :Isn't it convinience and less load to the transmission system if we let it free rather than in engage mode whenever the car is at stalled position .
Quest 2 : My car is in stalled position at an even road, can I move the the car with D1- D2 - D3 - D something like we do in manual transmission?

Broz if my questions sound silly please don't laugh as i've said i'm still a looking at the gear knob whenever i'm shifting the gears.Thanks in advance and for your info I have fitted the car with Mugen BK and black tinted . I will post the pics of my "whiteboy" . Whenever I take the car on street "All Eyez On Me" , the feeling i had each time i drive the car no words to describe ..WOW!!!!and I believe many of you would have felt it till today when you drive the car.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A1: If you are going to be stationary for a while, then feel free to drop it to N. If you are going to be stationary for just a few seconds, eg, traffic jam, then just leave it in D, and its really no harm done, and you wont have to keep shifting. This is an Auto car anyway, which is supposed to be more "convenient" than manual.
If you are going to be stationary for a loooong time, consider turning off the engine (if the weather permits, ie, cool morning, no need aircon) to save petrol and the environment.

A2: If you are stationary, you can move the gearknob anywhere and anyhow you like.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some time ago, on my way to Ipoh, my daughter accidentally kicked my Vios into N while on the highway. I let go of the throttle, shifted back into D, waited awhile until the transmission sync-ed with the engine once again, and stepped again on the throttle to resume cruising speed.

There was no jerking, skidding through this episode, fortunately. Need a car with one of those zig-zag gated transmissions. Also, daughter have to sit behind already....

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

legrunt wrote:
A1: If you are going to be stationary for a while, then feel free to drop it to N. If you are going to be stationary for just a few seconds, eg, traffic jam, then just leave it in D, and its really no harm done, and you wont have to keep shifting. This is an Auto car anyway, which is supposed to be more "convenient" than manual.
If you are going to be stationary for a loooong time, consider turning off the engine (if the weather permits, ie, cool morning, no need aircon) to save petrol and the environment.

A2: If you are stationary, you can move the gearknob anywhere and anyhow you like.


Thanks for the advice legrunt

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

navin wrote:
Hi Broz,
Good day to you'll. I just got my civic "whiteboy" last Friday . I've been a manual trans driver since I got my license 14 yrs back. I'm felt like a newbie when I sat in my car on Friday puzzled when I wanted to shift the gears. Till today each time i wanted to shift the gears my eyez will automatically roll to the gear knob. according to your advice when i read through this posting , i don't necesarily have to change the drive (D) to neutral (n) whenever my car is stalled at traffic light which i've been doing since day 1 I got this car. i have few question which I believe broz can help me out before i wear out the transmission system.

Quest 1 :Isn't it convinience and less load to the transmission system if we let it free rather than in engage mode whenever the car is at stalled position .
Quest 2 : My car is in stalled position at an even road, can I move the the car with D1- D2 - D3 - D something like we do in manual transmission?

Broz if my questions sound silly please don't laugh as i've said i'm still a looking at the gear knob whenever i'm shifting the gears.Thanks in advance and for your info I have fitted the car with Mugen BK and upgraded the security system with Clifford Blackjax5 and black tinted . I will post the pics of my "whiteboy" . Whenever I take the car on street "All Eyez On Me" , the feeling i had each time i drive the car no words to describe ..WOW!!!!and I believe many of you would have felt it till today when you drive the car.


Bro Navin,,
Moving your car at D1, D2 or D3 wont harm the car or the AT,,
whenever you move your car the gear will always start at 1st gear, and if the gear paddle is at D3 then the max gear level it will go is 3rd Gear, same goes to at D2 the max level it will go is at 2nd gear

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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navin wrote:
Hi Broz,
Good day to you'll. I just got my civic "whiteboy" last Friday . I've been a manual trans driver since I got my license 14 yrs back. I'm felt like a newbie when I sat in my car on Friday puzzled when I wanted to shift the gears. Till today each time i wanted to shift the gears my eyez will automatically roll to the gear knob. according to your advice when i read through this posting , i don't necesarily have to change the drive (D) to neutral (n) whenever my car is stalled at traffic light which i've been doing since day 1 I got this car. i have few question which I believe broz can help me out before i wear out the transmission system.

Quest 1 :Isn't it convinience and less load to the transmission system if we let it free rather than in engage mode whenever the car is at stalled position .
Quest 2 : My car is in stalled position at an even road, can I move the the car with D1- D2 - D3 - D something like we do in manual transmission?

Broz if my questions sound silly please don't laugh as i've said i'm still a looking at the gear knob whenever i'm shifting the gears.Thanks in advance and for your info I have fitted the car with Mugen BK and upgraded the security system with Clifford Blackjax5 and black tinted . I will post the pics of my "whiteboy" . Whenever I take the car on street "All Eyez On Me" , the feeling i had each time i drive the car no words to describe ..WOW!!!!and I believe many of you would have felt it till today when you drive the car.


Bro Navin,,
Moving your car at D1, D2 or D3 wont harm the car or the AT,,
whenever you move your car the gear will always start at 1st gear, and if the gear paddle is at D3 then the max gear level it will go is 3rd Gear, same goes to at D2 the max level it will go is at 2nd gear

Happy Motoring


Thanks bro old1030 ...now I got it , so even I shift from D3 - D it will start back from 1st gear right

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

navin wrote:
old1030 wrote:
navin wrote:
Hi Broz,
Good day to you'll. I just got my civic "whiteboy" last Friday . I've been a manual trans driver since I got my license 14 yrs back. I'm felt like a newbie when I sat in my car on Friday puzzled when I wanted to shift the gears. Till today each time i wanted to shift the gears my eyez will automatically roll to the gear knob. according to your advice when i read through this posting , i don't necesarily have to change the drive (D) to neutral (n) whenever my car is stalled at traffic light which i've been doing since day 1 I got this car. i have few question which I believe broz can help me out before i wear out the transmission system.

Quest 1 :Isn't it convinience and less load to the transmission system if we let it free rather than in engage mode whenever the car is at stalled position .
Quest 2 : My car is in stalled position at an even road, can I move the the car with D1- D2 - D3 - D something like we do in manual transmission?

Broz if my questions sound silly please don't laugh as i've said i'm still a looking at the gear knob whenever i'm shifting the gears.Thanks in advance and for your info I have fitted the car with Mugen BK and upgraded the security system with Clifford Blackjax5 and black tinted . I will post the pics of my "whiteboy" . Whenever I take the car on street "All Eyez On Me" , the feeling i had each time i drive the car no words to describe ..WOW!!!!and I believe many of you would have felt it till today when you drive the car.


Bro Navin,,
Moving your car at D1, D2 or D3 wont harm the car or the AT,,
whenever you move your car the gear will always start at 1st gear, and if the gear paddle is at D3 then the max gear level it will go is 3rd Gear, same goes to at D2 the max level it will go is at 2nd gear

Happy Motoring


Thanks bro old1030 ...now I got it , so even I shift from D3 - D it will start back from 1st gear right


Bro Navin,,
regardless of any D, D1, D2, D3 etc,, its will always start at 1st Gear when your car is at stationary,, but if you change from D1, D2, D3 to D or vise versa,, it will go to suitable gear according to your speed.
Rolling Eyes But why you want to change change gear broo,, let the car to change it for you la broo,,
I've owned the car almost a year now and I never put the gear lever down to D2, D3, D1,, always at D,, he he he
But its up to you laa, its your car,,
Little bit OT
Whenever anybody ride with me and comments this and that,, I always said Suka Ati Aku Laa Aku beli Keta ni Guna Duit Aku, Engkau nak Engkau beli keta sendiri lepas tu engkau buat,,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

old1030 wrote:
navin wrote:
old1030 wrote:
navin wrote:
Hi Broz,
Good day to you'll. I just got my civic "whiteboy" last Friday . I've been a manual trans driver since I got my license 14 yrs back. I'm felt like a newbie when I sat in my car on Friday puzzled when I wanted to shift the gears. Till today each time i wanted to shift the gears my eyez will automatically roll to the gear knob. according to your advice when i read through this posting , i don't necesarily have to change the drive (D) to neutral (n) whenever my car is stalled at traffic light which i've been doing since day 1 I got this car. i have few question which I believe broz can help me out before i wear out the transmission system.

Quest 1 :Isn't it convinience and less load to the transmission system if we let it free rather than in engage mode whenever the car is at stalled position .
Quest 2 : My car is in stalled position at an even road, can I move the the car with D1- D2 - D3 - D something like we do in manual transmission?

Broz if my questions sound silly please don't laugh as i've said i'm still a looking at the gear knob whenever i'm shifting the gears.Thanks in advance and for your info I have fitted the car with Mugen BK and upgraded the security system with Clifford Blackjax5 and black tinted . I will post the pics of my "whiteboy" . Whenever I take the car on street "All Eyez On Me" , the feeling i had each time i drive the car no words to describe ..WOW!!!!and I believe many of you would have felt it till today when you drive the car.


Bro Navin,,
Moving your car at D1, D2 or D3 wont harm the car or the AT,,
whenever you move your car the gear will always start at 1st gear, and if the gear paddle is at D3 then the max gear level it will go is 3rd Gear, same goes to at D2 the max level it will go is at 2nd gear

Happy Motoring


Thanks bro old1030 ...now I got it , so even I shift from D3 - D it will start back from 1st gear right


Bro Navin,,
regardless of any D, D1, D2, D3 etc,, its will always start at 1st Gear when your car is at stationary,, but if you change from D1, D2, D3 to D or vise versa,, it will go to suitable gear according to your speed.
Rolling Eyes But why you want to change change gear broo,, let the car to change it for you la broo,,
I've owned the car almost a year now and I never put the gear lever down to D2, D3, D1,, always at D,, he he he
But its up to you laa, its your car,,
Little bit OT
Whenever anybody ride with me and comments this and that,, I always said Suka Ati Aku Laa Aku beli Keta ni Guna Duit Aku, Engkau nak Engkau beli keta sendiri lepas tu engkau buat,,


but if you change from D1, D2, D3 to D or vise versa,, it will go to suitable gear according to your speed. <----- Bro..can I treat this as something like manual transmission etc:
N : Car at stalled position
D1 : car moving 0-60km/h ( 1st gear manual trans)
D2 : car moving 60km/h - 100km/h and (2nd gear manual trans)
D3 : car moving 100km/h - 130km/h and (3rd gear manual trans)
D : car moving 130km/h onwards ( at this position the AT will shift the gear position to high gear (4th gear manual trans)or back to 1st gear)
Note : the above speed which I have stated for each gear is just an example only and not an actual fact.

Bro... I'm confused

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="navin"][quote="old1030"]
navin wrote:
old1030 wrote:
navin wrote:
Hi Broz,
Good day to you'll. I just got my civic "whiteboy" last Friday . I've been a manual trans driver since I got my license 14 yrs back. I'm felt like a newbie when I sat in my car on Friday puzzled when I wanted to shift the gears. Till today each time i wanted to shift the gears my eyez will automatically roll to the gear knob. according to your advice when i read through this posting , i don't necesarily have to change the drive (D) to neutral (n) whenever my car is stalled at traffic light which i've been doing since day 1 I got this car. i have few question which I believe broz can help me out before i wear out the transmission system.

Quest 1 :Isn't it convinience and less load to the transmission system if we let it free rather than in engage mode whenever the car is at stalled position .
Quest 2 : My car is in stalled position at an even road, can I move the the car with D1- D2 - D3 - D something like we do in manual transmission?

Broz if my questions sound silly please don't laugh as i've said i'm still a looking at the gear knob whenever i'm shifting the gears.Thanks in advance and for your info I have fitted the car with Mugen BK and upgraded the security system with Clifford Blackjax5 and black tinted . I will post the pics of my "whiteboy" . Whenever I take the car on street "All Eyez On Me" , the feeling i had each time i drive the car no words to describe ..WOW!!!!and I believe many of you would have felt it till today when you drive the car.


Bro Navin,,
Moving your car at D1, D2 or D3 wont harm the car or the AT,,
whenever you move your car the gear will always start at 1st gear, and if the gear paddle is at D3 then the max gear level it will go is 3rd Gear, same goes to at D2 the max level it will go is at 2nd gear

Happy Motoring


Thanks bro but if you change from D1, D2, D3 to D or vise versa,, it will go to suitable gear according to your speed. <----- Bro..can I treat this as something like manual transmission etc:
N : Car at stalled position
D1 : car moving 0-60km/h ( 1st gear manual trans)
D2 : car moving 60km/h - 100km/h and (2nd gear manual trans)
D3 : car moving 100km/h - 130km/h and (3rd gear manual trans)
D : car moving 130km/h onwards ( at this position the AT will shift the gear position to high gear (4th gear manual trans)or back to 1st gear)
Note : the above speed which I have stated for each gear is just an example only and not an actual fact.

Bro... I'm confused


Navin,,
Yup you can put it that way,, by shifting your gear from D1 till D and walla you will get a manual transmission,, but the whole idea is for us to drop our gear down whenever we feels sloppy,,
For up shift,, just put it at D,, floor the pedal down then the AT will do their work..

Your quot
D : car moving 130km/h onwards ( at this position the AT will shift the gear position to high gear (4th gear manual trans)or back to 1st gear)
Answer
The gear still go to prefereable gear trans,, probably at that speed it will go to 5th gear
Like I said on my previous treat,, The gear will always start at 1st gear from stationary position,,regardless any post you put,, but not at R he he he
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason you buy auto car is so that you dont have to waste too much brain power to think about gear change etc etc anymore. Just put it into D and drive.

Unless you want to limit the gear change, eg, when you are climbing very steep hills, then only select the appropriate gear.

Otherwise, just enjoy the drive and dont stress yourself out worrying about the gear.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

legrunt wrote:
The reason you buy auto car is so that you dont have to waste too much brain power to think about gear change etc etc anymore. Just put it into D and drive.

Unless you want to limit the gear change, eg, when you are climbing very steep hills, then only select the appropriate gear.

Otherwise, just enjoy the drive and dont stress yourself out worrying about the gear.


Bro Legrunt & old1030
Navin,,
Yup you can put it that way,, by shifting your gear from D1 till D and walla you will get a manual transmission,, <---- Bro according to your statement...since I have made the AT to behave as manual transmission by using the D1-D2-D3-D, can I use this technic for Drag Race (short distance race)with any manual trans car ? Has anyone tried this before ? Bro..my sincere applogies for taking your precious time on this silly things, I dare not try this in my car before getting proffesionals advice as i'm afraid I might damage the trans system. As Bro Legrunt advice not to stress myself worrying about the gear i agree with you but Bro ..it will be cool if we can have some manual trans tecnic just to "teach" some lesson to other cars who try to be funny with Honda.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We arent professionals by far... just speaking from experience only, so take what we say with a grain of salt...

Anyway, if you wanna drag race, and its for money ... or your life depends on it, ... then the fastest way (and the most destructive way) is to put the car in neutral, press accelerator all the way, rev high high, then slam it into D and burn rubber...

But like I have said, this is a very destructive method, as you are causing very very severe shock to the tranny...

For other cases, standard drag etc etc, just put it into D, left foot press the foot brake, right foot press the accelerator only enough to tension the whole system (around 1/4 accelerator travel should be enough in most cases) then when you are ready to go, lift off the brake and slam the accelerator home...

Forget about using the D1-D2-D3 method. That way serves no purpose, as the automatic tranny will shift for you at the proper time anyway.

Just remember one thing.... use the D1 or D2 or D3 only to LIMIT the highest gear that the tranny will change too, in the case you want to have engine braking etc etc...

An auto box is NO WAY a manual transmission, so dont drive it like one....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

legrunt wrote:
A1: If you are going to be stationary for a while, then feel free to drop it to N. If you are going to be stationary for just a few seconds, eg, traffic jam, then just leave it in D, and its really no harm done, and you wont have to keep shifting. This is an Auto car anyway, which is supposed to be more "convenient" than manual.
If you are going to be stationary for a loooong time, consider turning off the engine (if the weather permits, ie, cool morning, no need aircon) to save petrol and the environment.

A2: If you are stationary, you can move the gearknob anywhere and anyhow you like.


helo..

let say if we are waiting at the traffic light for 2-3 minutes...is it adviseable to change the gear into N instead waiting in D?

which one good for auto tranny?

change to N or wait in D? TIA... Very Happy

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