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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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its more for collectors la...even Ferrari Enzo produced around 390 units world wide if im not mistaken...and this Mugen pandai pandai produced 300 units only...I think this is the first limited edition car by them...hope they wont do it too often...for those rich business man...what is RM 330K to them...the best thing is they can go and tell ppl around during Bintang or Vegas TT..."wei...I just bought a Honda Civic at the price tag of RM 330k but I dont know worth it or not la...but Naza told me this car is the one and only in Malaysia at this moment...so i just bought it lo...its even harder to be spotted than your F430 leh..."
Just buy a FD2R and spend RM 130k to mod it...wow..RR sure cant see your taillamps...RR is all about exclusivity...if I have plenty of extra RM 330K to spend...I will buy it as well |
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yuri Committee


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r399 LvL 2

Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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i have to say, the reflash totally transformed my ride. Amazing, considering i only replaced the panel filter and decatted the xzos.
As for flash pro, maybe it's for the more 'adventurous' kaki. For me, i'll stick to what j's racing has to offer |
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ari7474 Amateur


Joined: 06 Mar 2009 Posts: 137 Location: Shah Alam
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Eh.. just for the sake of argument, why FD2R never use Motec ah?
Is it because got no tuner or simply coz its expensive? _________________ "You'll never get to Heaven if you're scared of getting High"
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yuri Committee


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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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r399, adventurous or not, ...hard to determine. When some people buy things at that very moment, that particular option may not be available. As such, they purchase something which is being offered in the market at tat given time. of course, one can sell the old one and "upgrade" to he newer products.
It also has things to do with planning. And personal preferences.
Given an example of say, $ is no issue.
A might opt to install Intake only to feel the gains.
B might go for IHE and he thinks down time is one time only and one time labour.
If you plan your modifications, am sure everyone will try to avoid paying Double abour charges.
ari, take flash pro for an example.
Flashpro vs Motec (m400,m600,m800 *more outputs a it goes higher but most would use m4 for a 4 pottie)
$ VS $
gain VS gain
PnP VS piggyback or re-wire or is there a PnP already for motec?
tuner (availability, familiarity) VS tuner
all comes to the picture man.
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rodeo Amateur

Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 117
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| ari7474 wrote: | Eh.. just for the sake of argument, why FD2R never use Motec ah?
Is it because got no tuner or simply coz its expensive? |
for me, IMHO.....simply play safe, for time being reflash is the best opt with proven performance. Flash Pro or motec is better of if u really plan for major upgrade (etc 2.4 block/2.7 stroker kid) or else the ecu is under utilised. No point spending thousands of $ jus for 10hp (....maybe ) gained on stock engine. |
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ari7474 Amateur


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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yuri: Hey buddy.. I've always found you to be very knowledgeable and I really like the way you put things into perspective. Good explanation. Info noted and appreciate your time to pen this down. Thanks buddy
Rodeo: Nicely put as well. Agreed with what you've said. It's an over kill if you're to spend thousands and the gain is only 10bhp.
It's just that I'm relatively new with N/A engines especially the K-series and I keep hearing new things. I like to learn and weigh the value before modding. As you know, $ dont grow on trees. So thanks again guys for your feedback. _________________ "You'll never get to Heaven if you're scared of getting High"
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yuri Committee


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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| rodeo wrote: | | ari7474 wrote: | Eh.. just for the sake of argument, why FD2R never use Motec ah?
Is it because got no tuner or simply coz its expensive? |
for me, IMHO.....simply play safe, for time being reflash is the best opt with proven performance. Flash Pro or motec is better of if u really plan for major upgrade (etc 2.4 block/2.7 stroker kid) or else the ecu is under utilised. No point spending thousands of $ jus for 10hp (....maybe ) gained on stock engine. |
flash pro is not a new ecu, the ori ecu has to be used. The cost is somewhat similar to the reflashes. Depending on which reflash in the market you are talking about. It doesnt mean reflash is safe as the map can be changed and it is tuned by someone afterall. Same goes for flashpro or motec at that.
when it comes to ecu, Mapping is important. Tuner experiences and maps > how good and expensive the ecu is. (to me that is).
Flashpro can have very safe map too. As for motec, the available tuning points, the flashy and ever important features can be as good as any "play safe" maps you can find and load it.
in short, the maps/tuner > $ on ecu.
Some ppl have plans for big projects, nothing wrong to use say a motec now. U can always use it after a hefty sum spent on the motor and retune a map to suit the motor using the same motec.
no trade in and it is transferable to most cars.
it is true, FI vs NA, $ vs gains, we very often need to spend thousand to extract 10hp Come to think of it,which reflash are you talking about to have cost less than few thousands to gain that puny few ponies.
i still remember the FI days, up the boost, retune with ecu. Horsey horsey come.... hehehee, then comes the injectors, fuel pumps, fmic, get rid of the ceramic turbs...and more horseyhorsey.....
well well, your money, your car, your call. Do it your way. life goes on, and happy revving !
ari - i tcss jer...now teach me those stuffs in your blogs and flickr  |
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ari7474 Amateur


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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Yuri: I think, I need to take a course on how to mod cars laa with you. So, next semester, got new intake for freshman or not? hehehe..
Again.. I agree with what was said. Well written boss
I hope you dont mind me sharing, but all my previous ride was using a stand alone management system. Same as the flashpro I guess. It made sense then as I was modding pretty often and my aim was.. like what you say.. more horsey..
But now.. I want something that can last and give me the drivability which I enjoy having now. And also act as a weekend warrior in SIC. Thats all. Those days, it was all BHP and nothing else. Even the slightest gain would be an advantage. Like you, I'm now looking at the power band, torque curve and all rather than just peak bhp. Getting old laa I guess.
So.. thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it buddy.
As for your last comment- anytime buddy. I'm just really passionate about pictures and cars. hehehe.. _________________ "You'll never get to Heaven if you're scared of getting High"
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r399 LvL 2

Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Bro Yuri,
You brought up some interesting points  The main reason why i say the flashpro is a more adventurous alternative is because the J's reflash is already a safe (and track proven) way to make power.
Plus, getting a tool like the flashpro opens up more tuning and customization possibilities e.g. Ivtec engagement point, ignition timing. I guess at the end of the day it's how much (calculated?) risk you wanna take when extracting every last pony from your motor.
I agree with you that ultimately it's one's comfort/confidence level when it comes to mods. IMHO a tUne up by a reputable jap tuning house makes all the difference
Just my 2 sen, itu pun kena pinjam kat Uncle Chris. Hehehe |
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yuri Committee


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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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r399- no problem!  sharing is caring. this is a thread for the ecu/reflashes afterall.
psst, the J's reflashes can also be customized like what you quoted.
try asking that uncle ! hehehehehe
and yes, J's map is good and proven. (am still running on this  ) |
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RC_FD2R Veteran Lvl 2


Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 931 Location: KL, Selangor
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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i like that word.........that magic word..........UNCLE !!!!!!! wakakakakkakakakkakakakakka...............miahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahhaha...........wuahahahahhahahahahahhahahah...........................
okay...2 possibilities.........
1st r399 you are young.........
2nd chris2000 is old.........or looks old to you.........
bro Ari...........wanna be weekend warrior huh? so can i join your battle tomoro???? _________________ Type-R rulez the World...........................!!! |
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r399 LvL 2

Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Hahahahhahahaha..... I look younger because I kasi botak so cannot see my white hair. Also i always wear shorts and t shirt, not like uncle always wear long pants, shirt and control hensem one. Sh*t, sounds like i'm not acting my age la. Hahahahahaha |
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RC_FD2R Veteran Lvl 2


Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 931 Location: KL, Selangor
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| r399 wrote: | | not like uncle always wear long pants, shirt and control hensem one. |
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CROCS shoe  _________________ Type-R rulez the World...........................!!! |
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r399 LvL 2

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