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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: JVC AVX-826 or Pioneer P4150 DVD Reply with quote

Dear Sifus,

Am going to get a D-Din HU installed this Friday. Am considerng between these:

1) JVC AVX-826
2) Pioneer P4150 DVD

I considered Kenwood -- but not keen on having GPS, DVD and Music all in one gadget -- complicated.

Also considered Alpine, but seems too complicated/sophisticated/expensive for me personally.

I've been advised by our arrow-shooting sifu that Pioneer got better sound, JVC got BT and better screen -- but all others about equally on par.

Those of you bros who have the above players ... anything I should consider before I make the choice between the two?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pricing between JVC, Pioneer & Kenwood?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Jvc KW-AVX826 is the flagship model of JVC for 2009.

Bluetooth/DVD/CD/USB Motion Sensor and 7" Widescreen

DESCRIPTION

Activate the AV controls by just moving your hand on the Motion Sensor. You can play iPod or iPhone audio/video* with 2-way control for iPod/iPhone on either the iPod/iPhone or the headunit, and various other formats on USB devices. The built-in 7-inch widescreen touch panel colour monitor can be detached for enhanced security. The built-in Bluetooth® Wireless Technology and wired microphone provides superbly clear hands-free calls and also audio streaming on the road.

SPECIFICATIONS

* KS-U30 required for iPod/iPhone video playback. Compatibility depends on iPod.

Motion Sensor/Touch Panel
MOS-FET 50W x 4
Built-in Bluetooth® Wireless Technology including wired mcirophone
Built-in 7-inch Widescreen Colour Monitor
USB Port (AAC*1/WAV/MP3/WMA/iPod & iPhoneAudio)
GIGA MP3 MULTI
AAC*1/WAV/MP3/WMA Compatible (DVD/CD/USB)
DivX®/JPEG/MPEG 1, 2 Compatible (DVD/CD/USB*2)
USB Audio and Video for iPod/iPhone etc. *3
2-Way Control for iPod/iPhone (Headunit/iPod oriPhone)
Dolby Digital
7-Band iEQ
5V Line/5V Subwoofer Output Level
Gold-Plated Input Terminals (AV + Video)
Gold-Plated Output Terminals (Front + Rear +Subwoofer + Second Audio + Composite Video)- Digital Output Terminal
TFT ON/OFF
Multilingual Display
English/Spanish/French/German/Italian/Dutch/Portuguese/Swedish/Danish/Turkish/Russian/Persian/Arabic/Simplified Chinese/Traditional Chinese/Thai/Korean
Dual Zone Function
CD Changer Ready
High-Pass Filter (ON/Through)
Detachable Control Panel
*1 Not compatible with DRM-protected music purchased from iTunes Store.

*2 DivX® files must be less than 2Mbps for playback on USB

*3 KS-U30 required for iPod/iPhone video playback. Compatibility depends on iPod.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



AVH-P4150DVD
7" (16:9) Wide QVGA LCD Colour Display with 4-Channel High-Power DVD/VCD/CD Receiver and USB Direct Connection

More Media, More Direct
Enjoy more music, movies and communication through direct headunit connections to iPod, iPhone and USB portable players/devices. 112 key illumination colours let you put whichever tone suits your mood on display.

Features
Direct connection for iPod and iPhone (audio & video) (CD-IU200V required)
Pioneers new AVH-P4150DVD is ready to roll with capability for direct connection to your iPod. File search and access are extra-quick. The headunit keeps song, artist, time and album information displays very clear and user-friendly. A car entertainment systems wired connection for direct digital signal transfer from iPod into USB terminal maintains clean sound.
DivX/MP3/WMA/AAC playback on DVD and CD
Create a DivX movie on a PC, burn it to a disc, and play it in-car. Pioneers AV head units can play DivX video files from CDs and DVDs. The worlds most popular compressed digital video format, DivX delivers speedy transfer without appreciably compromising picture quality.
USB direct connection: USB 2.0 (full speed)
Take your favourite MP3, WMA and AAC files for a ride. The headunit has a USB terminal to directly connect a portable digital player, USB memory device or other USB-compatible gear, so you can play in your car whatever youve recorded via PC. Its fast and easy. No adapters are required. (Please use CD-U50E USB extension cable if a direct connection causes a USB device to protrude from the headunit in a way that can interfere with driving.)
AUX-in by mini jack (audio & video)
With the AUX-in mini jack built into the Audio and AV headunits, it has never been easier to unleash more entertainment through your Audio and AV system. This can make an iPod Audio, iPod Video, MP4 player, digital camera, camcorder, game/MP3/video player or other external portable device an instant extension of your in-car setup.
RGB key illumination (112 colours)
The headunit features 112 key illumination colours for more ways to match car interior and dashboard lighting.
Advanced Sound Retriever
Hear the glory of original sound across a deeper, wider spectrum from highly compressed MP3, WMA and AAC files stored on USB memory device, iPod and portable digital players. By compensating for data (especially higher frequencies) that tend to get lost in the digital compression process, Pioneer's Advanced Sound Retriever technology enhances audio reproduction nearly all the way up to 20 kHz frequencies
JPEG on CD-R/RW and USB
Bluetooth adapter ready
Built-in MPEG-1/-2 decoder
Built-in decoder (Dolby Digital, Linear PCM)
96 kHz/24-bit DAC (for audio)
10-bit video DAC
EEQ
IP-Bus input
3 RCA pre-outs (front + rear + subwoofer)
A/V inputs and outputs
1 RCA Audio/Video input
1 RCA Video output
RGB input (26-pin)
Multi-channel processor(DEQ-P7650) control (CD-DD25 required)
External unit control via IP-Bus (2 units)

LCD MONITOR

7" (16:9) QVGA wide TFT active matrix LCD colour screen
Touch slide operation
With a smooth swipe of your finger on the touch panel display, you can fast forward/rewind AV content playing from DVD-Video, DivX, MP3/WMA/ AAC and CD source formats, or scroll a list of files for you to select among.
Selectable on-screen display colour
TheAVH-P4150DVD lets you select among five screen colours, according to your preference and colour scheme.
AG (Anti-Glare) coated LCD colour screen
Built-in GDC (Graphics Display Controller)
Customisable wallpapers
Choose among 4 types of BGP (Background Picture) and 3 types of BGV (Background Visual). You can even set your favorite JPEG file as wallpaper. Parked with no place to go? Now you can enjoy a slideshow of your photos on a CD or USB Device.
LED backlight
Automatic rear view monitoring in reverse gear (by camera*)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3ple2s wrote:
Pricing between JVC, Pioneer & Kenwood?


Pricing between JVC and Pioneer is very little, JVC is less by <200 compared to Pioneer.

Kenwood is about RM900 more than Pioneer (probably cos it has GPS)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its just falls to sound vs picture quality...

IMHO, i'll go for sound over pics since u will hear more than u will see while driving. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3ple2s wrote:
Its just falls to sound vs picture quality...

IMHO, i'll go for sound over pics since u will hear more than u will see while driving. Wink


yeahlor, that's why more leaning towards Pioneer. But just want to ask those who have either of these models for some first-hand feedback on what they think of their HU. This Friday, sure to install either. I'll share the experience with all here on this ICE journey.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for Pioneer if you aim for audio CD sound quality...

If aiming for DVD, go for Kenwood as it provides DTS surround sound feature which Pioneer doesn't have.

JVC not sure about its strength, the only benefit i know of JVC is that the 7" screen is detachable which other brands don't have, meaning can bring home and feel secured lah~ Very Happy

You may get Pioneer from Singapore which is less than RM3k for this model. Check Singapore FD forum under Group Buy. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alvin_Kerk wrote:
Go for Pioneer if you aim for audio CD sound quality...

If aiming for DVD, go for Kenwood as it provides DTS surround sound feature which Pioneer doesn't have.

JVC not sure about its strength, the only benefit i know of JVC is that the 7" screen is detachable which other brands don't have, meaning can bring home and feel secured lah~ Very Happy

You may get Pioneer from Singapore which is less than RM3k for this model. Check Singapore FD forum under Group Buy. Wink


bro, was in Singapore yesterday. Chatted up one of the SG FD owner, they have two versions in Sing. One is cash and carry type (can buy in few places like Sim Lim), and another one comes with warranty from panel shops. The second type cost SGD1.4K++ which comes to about same price or more to here. I found another guy selling the first version in KL for 2640, but no warranty and he only had 1 unit. A bit cautious about this, but seems lot of Singaporeans don't mind.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy with warranty one, bro. Hassle-free and secured purchase are important nowadays...

When I was thinking which brand to buy in May'09, I was comparing Kenwood with Pioneer and considering which brand to go too... It took me some times to do research and ask around those ICE friends.

I remember my hometown Batu Pahat is selling RM3.1k with warranty. You may ask around KL area again for comparison. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the JVC 826 instead of pioneer 4150 - better security feature--detachable panel and also bluetooth for hands-free. This thing really works especially you could talk over the phone while driving. feel assure-- parking at the hotel car park--

Pros from pioneer- better sound quality, able to display JPEG pictures for wall paper- better brand name-

again, it is entirely up to you to choose......
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bernard79 wrote:
I bought the JVC 826 instead of pioneer 4150 - better security feature--detachable panel and also bluetooth for hands-free. This thing really works especially you could talk over the phone while driving. feel assure-- parking at the hotel car park--

Pros from pioneer- better sound quality, able to display JPEG pictures for wall paper- better brand name-

again, it is entirely up to you to choose......


How is the sound quality? Did you install anything else into your ICE setup? Have you tried streaming over BT from MP3 or phone?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they all work perfectly- the screen will display your phone battery, reception signal and even got speed dial for phone number. streaming from iphone and other phone also compatible.

sound wise-i think reasonable- as i am not SQ enthusiast- I have installed a pair of Helix RS competition series mid + tweeter+ alpine 12 inch woofer driven by orion extreme.



In fact, security is the most thing concerns me-- rest assure with the detachable panel- no worry with the hotel parking......kiansi Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alvin_Kerk wrote:

JVC not sure about its strength, the only benefit i know of JVC is that the 7" screen is detachable which other brands don't have, meaning can bring home and feel secured lah~ Very Happy


Wow ... Thats so good !!!... i thought no company make that yet.
Any pics of the detached panel?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx to all your feedbacks. I went for the pioneer (with warranty Smile )

Reason:
1) My priority more towards sound quality
2) DVD feature really doesn't benefit driver ... me Twisted Evil
3) Safety wise, I think not easy to steal this player. Took them very long to install ... and no one in this forum ever experience audio kena stolen. They rather steal the whole car Razz Easier.

Look at the system, I would say warranty is a must --- highly advanced device. Definitely need a good installer -- and Desmond did a good job for me @KLAuto. His panel also looks very good -- very similar to Stock Type R panel. So it looks like it belongs there. You guys can take a look this Saturday.

My wife still miss the stock HU look ... she said my car look too garang d, no more "pretty pretty". Now she wants me to buy her her own car ... say she will choose which car, and decide whatever she wants to put in it ... gonna be pokai soon. Embarassed

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